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Comment from: Emma Visitor
Comment from: Emma Visitor
WELL LUCKILY FOR YOU I C&P-ed IT INTO PAGES, HAHA!!
HERE IT IS:
While not quite up to the excitement level of the FOOD POST, I still do love me a good book review post. Ahem.
And third is something strange and tropey involving a posh guy with a cane and a Japanese-style vampire maid. While the mix is weird, it does at least make for a plot that is interesting to read.
Oh god, a posh British guy with a cane and a… Japanese vampire maid? I feel that’s the punchline of a joke written by Anne Rice. In the 90s.
It’s true that I didn’t give Rivers of London a real shot, however. I don’t mind it that some/most men find some/most women attractive and think about banging them, obviously; I just mind that it seems like: a.) I can’t escape their tiresome adolescent maundering about their apparently unquenchable desires anywhere, even in the Land of Pure Imagination, and b.) I don’t find women attractive on the same terms that straight men do, and listening to them objectify us using the outdated metrics of their long-dead grandfathers annoys me. But! How much would we have to discard if we tossed out every work that features gendered sexual objectification? Pretty much all of them! Sadly! I’ll dig this book up & give it another try one day soon, why not.
but my background in biochemistry does maybe make it easier for me to discount some types of nonsense
You have a background in biochemistry??? Holy crap!
I bought The Angry Chef because I saw you talk about it here! I thought most of the content was excellent, but I found it funny that he occasionally took a minute to sneer at “leftists,” despite the fact that here in the US Warner himself would basically be considered a hair-on-fire Commie because of his, you know, ability to reason, interest in scientific data, general acceptance of natural human diversity, etc. Also I thought he relied over-heavily on the remarks and thought processes of Steven Pinker, a real asshole who made his name devising pandering evopsych explanations for bad human (male mostly) behavior, who believes that the default human emotion when confronted with social inequality should be ‘gratitude toward our gracious overlords,’ and who played an integral role in helping Jeffrey Epstein avoid prison for many years. Didn’t care for any of that even a little. But! I thought Warner’s rational takedowns of extreme diets were invaluable, and also his observation that the “clean eating” phenomenon was mostly about shaming people for eating things designed for ‘poor ‘ or ‘fat’ or ‘lazy’ consumers. Also for mentioning that the chemophobic, clean eating food fascist subculture is generally hyper-conservative, and seems intent on removing any food substance from the diet that allows women to avoid being chained to a stove all day, every day. No bagged salads or frozen chicken breasts for you, Mom! You’ll be cooking everything from scratch every day, forever, using expensive hard-to-find ingredients, or you’ll be accused of literally killing your kids with edible poisons! It’s crazy. I would give this book a 4/5, and up it to a 5/5 if Warner ever drops his dependence on Steven “Yikes” Pinker.
I’m so happy you read Lud-in-the-Mist! There are two of us now! We can have meetings & everything!!!
Can someone please explain this book to me? I would be grateful.
Okay, when they explain it to you, come and find me and let me know what’s going on.
I really agree with everything you’ve said here; the impressionistic aesthetic of the prose, the generalized weirdness, the hazy logic, the weird drug-like compulsions inherent in fairy artifacts, etc.
I don’t think I hated Duke Aubrey as much as you did, though! I don’t have the same reaction to fairy characters that normal people tend to have, I’ve found. They usually just remind me of my family, and then I get homesick for being small.
I will say that the thing I found most similar about Duke Aubrey & The Raven King was the mythic/mundane dichotomy – I don’t have the book on me at the moment, but I remember there being a part where Aubrey was described carrying on during an execution he’d ordered (I think?), partying and howling and acting vaguely BoJo-adjacent, and then a few days later unrelatedly coming to stand watch at the bedside of a dying peasant, carrying food and wine for the man’s grieving village. It was something to think about. Probably I should do that more, hmmm.
Also I remember thinking that Aubrey was like the gentleman with the thistle-down hair + J. Uskglass at the same time, and that I really preferred them separate.
I’m still not quite sure what the plot was telling me, but I know that I enjoyed it very much.
Agree.
Comment from: Janine Member
I would be interested to know what you think about “Rivers of London” if you do give it a read.
I’m glad you read “The Angry Chef"! It’s been over a year since I read it, so I don’t remember the sneering at leftists part. Warner always struck me as being really quite left-wing, but maybe I’m selectively forgetting the bits I don’t like XD
I’d never heard of Steven Pinker before, so I had just passed over his name when I came across it in the book. I don’t know whether to Google him or remain in a state of “ignorance is bliss".
Well, regardless of politics and a love for Pinker, the book’s guidance on how to spot bullshit is imo worth the price of the book alone. I often find myself thinking back to the hares and the eggs part too; I’ve not seen the problems with correlation and causation explained so neatly before.
Yay Lud-in-the-Mist! It was Aubrey’s deliberately driving a person to suicide that really did it for me. Uskglass is morally-grey, sure, but he wouldn’t do that.
I like your comment on the mythic/mundane dichotomy. Just like Uskglass, we see Aubrey so little that we’re reduced to relying on the myths to build up a picture of what he might be like. Are any of those myths actually true? That’s debatable.
I’d never considered that Aubrey was like Uskglass and Thistledown together, but you’re right!
Comment from: Emma Visitor
Well, I wrote a long-ass response here, but TFC thinks it’s spam.
(How well it knows me.)
Hopefully it’s somewhere in your spam filter, lol.
Comment from: Janine Member
Oh no! I’m afraid I can’t see it anywhere!
This shambles is the fault of my fight against spam five years ago. I think I blacklisted some random words in a spate of zeal.
HAHA SUCCESS! IT WAS THE LINK TAG!